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« Reply #195 on: Jun 18, 2009, 18:06 »

Yeah, I got errm.. confronted with this issue a few weeks back.

About a dozen angry wimmin from the Anti-Mijn-Schatje Front accusing me of collaboration for featuring a tiny (non-doll related, mind you) image of her work back in 2005 or so.

They sure all have a fair point, but they all seem to be a bit hormonal about the issue. The rip-off is so incredibly obvious that it really doesn't need an army of holy crusaders to email me. Particularly because I don't even like Mijn's work apart from one single image. Wink

In other news, I'm glad I never saw that still of Lady Gaga on my TV - I would have shot the screen.
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« Reply #196 on: Jun 19, 2009, 00:35 »

theres work of hers i like a lot but to be honest I'm getting tired of the whole pasteley whimsical big eyed sad children thing.
i looked into the anti Mijn site, some of there claims apart from the BJD face reverences are pretty far fetched. for example-copying the tiger and the boom box. i wouldn't really consider that as art theft. plus the use of Audrey Kawasaki's hand (or whatever it was).
and yes, a small picture 4 years ago does not a collaboration make.
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« Reply #197 on: Jun 20, 2009, 09:12 »

yeah, i'm disappointed by the mijn affair too - her art is really nice (err, worse adjective you could give as a compliment for art?) and also she's really nice in person from my experience - a shame she fouled up getting proper permissions, very dim! - i also got accosted by the hate campaigners and immediately came to similar conclusions about it - comments on this old post: http://www.pileup.com/babyart/blog/?p=22 - they also posted their grievances on the saatchi forum which is the funniest irreverent reading on the matter

thanx for bringing up the karen hsiao thing - of course i'm now getting shat on because i dared mention it myself (even in a blatantly sarky flippant post) - ho hum...


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« Reply #198 on: Jul 17, 2009, 22:58 »

Arrow Kitschy fashiony Gustav Klimt "homage".

I can't even be bothered to upload any images of it as I know that Gustav would have disapproved muchly.
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« Reply #199 on: Jul 25, 2009, 01:52 »



'come here because i want it'
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« Reply #200 on: Aug 09, 2009, 23:22 »

The adorable Jessica Joslin discovered this lovely tribute:


Radio FM4 Campaign by Bernd Preiml, 2009 (detail)

… après…


Der Struwwelpeter: Die gar traurige Geschichte mit dem Feuerzeug by Heinrich Hoffmann, 1858

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« Reply #201 on: Aug 10, 2009, 02:14 »

oh thats interesting. the book used to give me the fear as a child  zombiekittyfromhell
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« Reply #202 on: Aug 11, 2009, 00:49 »

oh thats interesting. the book used to give me the fear as a child  zombiekittyfromhell

Yeah, same here. My granny particularly liked to remind me about Pauline and her deadly fascination for matches. I was such a pyromaniac in my pre-pubertal life.
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« Reply #203 on: Aug 11, 2009, 01:27 »

There's this massive hype for Martine Johanna over at Tumblr at the moment. I find myself terribly torn between liking a lot of her illustrative work, but not seeing a persistent style emerging. Somehow, everything looks a bit assembled from here and there and reinterpreted. Which doesn't necessarily have to be a negative thing. In the case below, however, nothing was gained from an artistic perspective, methinks:


Bride of Frankenstein by Marina Bychkova, 2008


illustration by Martine Johanna, 2009
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« Reply #204 on: Aug 11, 2009, 17:38 »

Strewwel Peter is one of those things like Willy Wonka that i didnt get as a kid (tales of horrible things happening to kids, for kids 0_o) of course i get the moral now but at the time i thought 'and your showing me this why?'
the thumb sucker bothered me the most *shudder*
of course i love the book now :p
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« Reply #205 on: Aug 11, 2009, 20:11 »

Strewwel Peter is one of those things like Willy Wonka that i didnt get as a kid.

I can see that, though I remember lots of violent and terrifying comics/movies/cartoons when I was a kid - stuff that you would never see nowadays.
Of course SP is part of a long tradition of kiddie grand guignol -  from the Grimms to Bugs Bunny and Ren and Stimpy.

I remember when I first learned about the "Ruckedieguh, Blut ist im Schuh" part of Cinderella that never made it into the modern English versions (or Ringelnatz's Red Riding Hood, which is closer to the heart of the original). And I remember reading a book which claimed that Hansel and Gretl was a whitewashed retelling of a real murder of an old woman for her lebkuchen recipe.

Here's a site devoted to all the violent (and racist) content that has been cut out of original cartoons:
http://looney.goldenagecartoons.com/ltcuts/
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« Reply #206 on: Aug 12, 2009, 00:30 »

the thumb sucker bothered me the most *shudder*

Arrrghh.. that scared the shit out of me! I was an ardent fingernail biter until the age of 13 or so and my granny (again! Jesus Christ.. I guess I should really go talk to her about all these issues after all those years!) once told me that my fingers could rot off because of my saliva being acidic or something horrible along these lines.

I'm not sure whether it was really all those horrific books around me or my senior family members putting their weird post-WW2 "moral" into them that traumatised me. *bites nails* Confused
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« Reply #207 on: Aug 12, 2009, 15:58 »

ha ha your granny sounds like my aunt! my aunt was the one who showed me the book. she had a horrible sense of humour that she liked to infict on us children the most. she breast fed one of my toys once just to upset me! (i never looked at that bunny the same again :s) she also used to pretend she had gone blind and make her daughter scream. my dad is pretty similar but a little less twisted. in fact all the family on his side are like that...
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« Reply #208 on: Aug 12, 2009, 17:48 »

And speaking of kids' books, I just noticed the background on "come here because I want it".

When I was a kid I remember seeing a safety film on TV that was absolutely freaky. It was about a group of kids coming back to school in the fall, and all of them (except one) dies to illustrate some safety lesson - falling off a snowbank and getting hit by a car, falling off a bike and getting a fatal head injury, killed by a rock in a snowball, falling off a bridge, getting hit by a snowplough, falling through the ice on the river.
At the end one boy is left standing all by himself, and hopefully better educated about safety.
Even better, the whole thing was in high contrast black and white - very "Night of the Living Dead". Isaw that grisly safety lesson many times, though once was enough to burn it into my memory.

Sorry for my part in getting us so far off-topic, but here's a nursery rhyme in one of the kids' books we have around the house:

Piggy on the railway picking up stones
Along came an engine and broke piggy's bones
Oh! said the piggy, that's not fair
Oh said the engine driver, I don't care!

(though I guess traditional children's stories passed down through the years are the very stuff of plagiarism er... borrowing, so it's not that far off)


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« Reply #209 on: Aug 12, 2009, 18:28 »

that safety film sounds like 'the ghastlycrumb tinies'. do you remember what it was called? nowadays being all grown up i like that kind of thing a lot (helped along by my thinking children are intrinsic evil)
my girlfriend was shown a safety video like that at work, altho it was more 'bad taste' then 'night of the living dead' (people getting decapatated by forklifts and whatnot).

speaking of grusome nursery tales-

TELL-TALE tit,
Your tongue shall be slit,
And all the dogs in the town
Shall have a little bit.

(altho i seem to remember it as 'all the little puppy dogs')
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