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« Reply #120 on: Aug 04, 2008, 00:07 »


steampunk is a dirty word in this household - something i enjoyed until i realised that like any would-be zeitgeist,  as soon as you offer up something original, you immediately also offer fodder for a legion of 16 year olds and their etsy accounts to go nuclear - and 100 knock offs an original piece appear the very next day.
I moved away from all things retro future over a year ago, focusing on what i do now, but i'm yet to lose the unfortunate tag- something i'm sure you have gained too - an association im yet to understand.(although i simply do not understand what is remotely steampunk about what i do now)

The artist richard naggy once said that i had unfortunately (and this also applies to you) created an archetype - our offering of a niche style appears to be a license to plagiarize - without a single thought if they should - they just wondered if they could, and so i guess we will be hounded by copycats until the next big thing..

the boy apologized, and i have had some very supportive emails regarding this whole debacle. be sure to let us know if it happens to you, and ill be there with a pitchfork ready to smash down their gates and burn down their glued-on-cog-painted-to-look-like-brass plastic nurf guns..

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« Reply #121 on: Aug 04, 2008, 06:54 »

Thank you and I completely agree with you. My whole purpose is to one day be able to say my work is truely 100% my own, and of course to just be remembered when I am gone.
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« Reply #122 on: Aug 04, 2008, 21:02 »

@Alex
Sad that some bad eggs spoiled the steampunk for you. I don't mind that label myself. Sure it's silly sometimes, but I like the aesthetic and (for me) labels don't change the work. Imitation is usually a young-ish thing. It may be impossible not to be aggravated by the presumption, but personally, I won't feel threatened until someone with years of training (or a big budget for skilled labor) starts scratching at my door. (Then I'll call on you & your pitchfork!)

Anyway, as distressing and discouraging as this must be for you, just stay sharklike (always moving forward) and things will work themselves out... hug

I really think that Jeff Soto really stated his case beautifully regarding imitation (and his work has had so many generations of imitators, some are now, arguably, Juxtapoz-realm superstars...or at least, selling lots of their rip-offs.)
Suzanne posted a link to the article earlier in this thread (but I'm not sure how to do a trackback)
Link: http://www.fecalface.com/SF/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=584&Itemid=99999999

@John
That's a tall order, but keep doing what you love...the rest will follow.
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« Reply #123 on: Aug 08, 2008, 01:32 »

One of my all-time favourite photographs of the droolworthy Devon Aoki:


"Devon Aoki: Fish Stick" by David LaChapelle, 1998

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© Tang Shi, 2006

Oh, and to all MetaFilter readers: Welcome! Why don't you contribute to the discussion instead of creepily trolling around the internets?!  Hmmm? fluff
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« Reply #124 on: Sep 03, 2008, 12:08 »




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« Reply #125 on: Sep 12, 2008, 16:57 »

Strange we didn't have this one yet...


"Uprisings" by Kozyndan, mixed media - available as print from "our" lovely gallery in Shoreditch/on the net! Wink

... après:


"The Great Wave off Kanagawa" by Katsushika Hokusai, c. 1823-1829
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« Reply #126 on: Sep 26, 2008, 00:00 »


"La Grande baigneuse" by Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres, 1808

... and 2 centuries later...


"The Honey Dripper (Goldilocks & The Three Bears)" by Isabel Samaras, 2008
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« Reply #127 on: Sep 26, 2008, 15:52 »

Interesting article about 'genuine fake' masterpieces in today's Independent:

Spot the difference

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It began with house paint, KY jelly and scamming of international auction houses, and looked like it would end with a stint inside Brixton prison. Happily for John Myatt, he instead finds himself at Harrods, launching an exhibition of his "genuine fake" masterpieces.

Art aficionados studying the gilt-framed canvas of a view made famous by Claude Monet, in his Impressionist work The Bridge at Argenteuil, might be forgiven for mistaking the painting for the real thing.

On closer inspection, subtle clues suggest the landscape was not painted by the 19th-century master but produced by the deft hand of Myatt, the infamous forger who fooled the world's experts for years before being caught.

From 1987 to 1994, Myatt crafted counterfeit works that were passed off as authentic masters and sold to auction houses such as Sotheby's and Christie's. Before he was imprisoned in 1995, he sold 200 works in the style of Picasso, Van Gogh and Chagall as originals.

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« Reply #128 on: Sep 29, 2008, 14:51 »


© 2003 Craig Morey


© 2004 Elena & Vitaly Vasilieva (their photo.net site)
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« Reply #129 on: Oct 02, 2008, 17:58 »

Hmm.. that last one is deeply interesting, yet might still be a coincidence, methinks. I remember owning a really similar lace headscarf once and it's somehow the only cool thing you can do with those. But maybe I'm wrong.

In other news, is it just me or does Tanja Jade (aka Misery) try to be Camille Rose Garcia's younger sister, or what?  Confused
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« Reply #130 on: Oct 10, 2008, 16:50 »

I was wondering whether any of you lovely forum folks own a copy of Remastered: Fifty-five Contemporary Artists Revisit Old Masters published by the glorious Gestalten Verlag and whether it's worth buying. Thankies!
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« Reply #131 on: Oct 10, 2008, 16:56 »

In other news, is it just me or does Tanja Jade (aka Misery) try to be Camille Rose Garcia's younger sister, or what?  Confused

I won't go any further into this, but since I adore Camille Rose's work it annoys me to see Misery suddenly "coming up" with all these creepy, dripping creatures riding oversized animals. It's just something so utterly Garciaesque for me.

See/decide for yourself.
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« Reply #132 on: Oct 10, 2008, 19:07 »

Strange we didn't have this one yet...


"Uprisings" by Kozyndan, mixed media - available as print from "our" lovely gallery in Shoreditch/on the net! Wink

... après:


"The Great Wave off Kanagawa" by Katsushika Hokusai, c. 1823-1829


Hmm.. à propos waves... is it just me or are these birds coming out of a Hokusaiesque wave a bit too close to Kozyndan's bunnies?  sherlock
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« Reply #133 on: Oct 10, 2008, 21:13 »

Looks like one of my favourite photographers of all time, Joel-Peter Witkin, has created yet another, anti-Bush version of the often mentioned here, (in)famous "Raft of Medusa" and here's a very interesting little YouTube video interview with him discussing the piece.
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« Reply #134 on: Oct 13, 2008, 01:13 »



again, 'lady with an ermine' by Leonardo da Vinci



'the girl and the ferret' by Lost Fish (who i love)




'mondays child' by Ray Caesar



dont know name but its by Roman Dirge of 'Lenore' comic fame (who i dont exactly hate but then definitly dont love)
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